[P.P.A.]

So I heard in the chat that none of the gems are banned for competition. Does that mean most of the current Sonic records abuse the red gem to halve the time?

[Groudon]

I assume so.

[P.P.A.]

hax

[eggFL]

RPG once told me it was a useless gem, I guess he was being sarcastic. Never really fully caught the fact behind what it did until after I stopped competing. Then again I mainly score attacked anyway.

I never used the red gem except for the ring-a-thon town mission, and not for the time boost but to be able to get all the rings accurately before they scatter

also I don't think it halves your time, maybe more like a quarter. I'm probably wrong on this though....

[Groudon]

I've noticed it halves by looking at the timer.

[eggFL]

It's impossible to tell by looking at the timer... >_>

You'd need a measurement device.

[Rick_242]

Count >_>?

1 Mississippi = 1 second

[DsSaster]

It halves the timer, but gems do not work while run through most loops, hitting springs, and hitting speed paths.

[Groudon]

If it were a quarter, the timer would run INSANELY slow.

[eggFL]

I meant a quarter as in 3/4

but nevermind, as I somehow believe DSS

[KnucklesSonic8]

I still fail to understand why we can't have a clean competition without the use of gems.
Gems can make or break a record somewhat more easily and it's somewhat hypocritical to call it "competition" because, when it boils down to it, it's not "true" competition.

[P.P.A.]

This thread is now about how broken the gems are.

[eggFL]

I still fail to understand why we can't have a clean competition without the use of gems.
Gems can make or break a record somewhat more easily and it's somewhat hypocritical to call it "competition" because, when it boils down to it, it's not "true" competition.

It isn't?

For the record, Sonic times are all about who is the best at abusing gems. (on second thought, I wouldn't even know, although it's obvious that's the case)

But maybe no-gem Sonic competition would be kind of .. boring? All things considered. Plus we have Shadow who is basically like Sonic but with no gems... although instead he has chaos snap... and then Silver is all about glitching. So whatever, I dunno.

It sounds like an idea discussed once (no-gem Sonic competition) but I don't remember, I only remember the thing I brought up about if it's ok to use saves in which only a select few of the gems are attained. (in order to save time switching through gems)

Personally I hate gems but my reasons go beyond competition. The fact that they're broken doesn't really matter to me either. (if you can turn Sonic 1/10th his size and jump from the air, who cares if the gem meter is infinite or not, the game is already ruined)

[KnucklesSonic8]

The last sentence you made made the most sense and all the difference. :P

But maybe it WOULD be boring but it's a little more clean.
I find some competitions in old-school games boring but that doesn't mean I'll use cheat codes.

Bad example, I know, but it's the principle.