Author Topic: Minimal A Challenge (Read 43027 times)

Ring Rush · « **on:** December 12, 2006, 12:14:33 am »

Sonic Adventure 2 (Battle) Division

If you have read my other topic, you probably understand what this challenge is. The goal is to simply beat a level, pressing the A button as little as possible. Here are the rules:

1. You may only do this in the stages listed below. You are welcome to suggest more though if you have a good reason they should be included.
2. You may do anything - and that means ANYTHING that does not involve pressing A inside of a level (unless of course you are adding to your A count and using a move that requires "A"). The only exception to this rule is the Cannon's Core Freestyle Glitch - it may not be done.
3. You do not need to provide a video, but be prepared to explain your strategy if someone asks or challenges your score.
4. No swapping controls in any way. "A" makes you jump among other things. You may not set air dash, glide, jump, hover, homing attack, or any other thing that normally requires A to a different button.

Here is how scoring works:

1. I am recording only ONE RECORD PER LEVEL.
2. The basic priority is the ammount of times you pressed A. If you took 1.03.05 on a level pressing A 3 times, and someone else took 36.35.12 pressing A 2 times, their record would go in instead of yours.
3. When multiple scores tie in "A-presses", the next thing looked at is RANK. This is not score, but the actual letter rank you got. A high B and a low B are both Bs, and are both considered even in the scoring system.
4. Finaly, if "A-presses" and rank are both tied, the record goes to the fastest time.

Records ~

Mission 1 Division:
Name ~ "A-Presses" ~ Rank ~ Time ~ Record Holder
City Escape ~ 0 ~ C ~ 4.03.17 ~ Stefan
Metal Harbor ~ 2 ~ D ~ 1.45.39 ~ Paragod
Green Forest ~ 0 ~ A ~ 4.06.62 ~ Stefan
Pyramid Cave ~ 9 ~ D ~ 3.23.90 ~ Stefan
Crazy Gadget ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Rush ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Lane ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mission Street ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hidden Base ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Eternal Engine ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Radical Highway ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
White Jungle ~ 0 ~ B ~ 2.08.22 ~ Stefan
Sky Rail ~ 25 ~ D ~ 2.34.70 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Final Chase ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Gate ~ 4 ~ D ~ 1.40.52 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Sand Ocean ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Colony ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Weapon's Bed ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosic Wall ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cannon's Core ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Green Hill ~ 0 ~ C ~ 0.43.44 ~ Paragod

Mission 2 Division
Name ~ "A-Presses" ~ Rank ~ Time ~ Record Holder
City Escape ~ 0 ~ A ~ 1.02.22 ~ Stefan
Metal Harbor ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Green Forest ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Pyramid Cave ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Crazy Gadget ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Rush ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Lane ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mission Street ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hidden Base ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Eternal Engine ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Radical Highway ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
White Jungle ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Rail ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Chase ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Gate ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sand Ocean ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Colony ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Weapon's Bed ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosic Wall ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Wild Canyon ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Pumpkin Hill ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Aquatic Mine ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Chamber ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Meteor Herd ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Dry Lagoon ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Quarters ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Security Hall ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Space ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cannon's Core ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

Mission 3 Division
Name ~ "A-Presses" ~ Rank ~ Time ~ Record Holder
City Escape ~ 7 ~ A ~ 2.18.99 ~ Paragod
Metal Harbor ~ 0 ~ A ~ 0.46.19 ~ Paragod
Green Forest ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Pyramid Cave ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Crazy Gadget ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Rush ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Lane ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mission Street ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hidden Base ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Eternal Engine ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Radical Highway ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
White Jungle ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Rail ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Chase ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Gate ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sand Ocean ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Colony ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Weapon's Bed ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosic Wall ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Wild Canyon ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Pumpkin Hill ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Aquatic Mine ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Chamber ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Meteor Herd ~ 2 ~ E ~ 24.19.62 ~ Ring Rush
Dry Lagoon ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Quarters ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Security Hall ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Space ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cannon's Core ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

Hero's Division
This is a division of this challenge for Sonic Heroes. The main expert in this part of the challenge is sonic_knuckles8. All questions about scoring and additional restrictions should be directed at him, not me.

Records ~ Heroes
Name ~ "A-Presses" ~ Rank ~ Time ~ Record Holder
Seaside Hill/Sonic ~ 2 ~ B ~ 5:04:21~ sonicam
Seaside Hill/Dark ~ 20 ~ E ~ 5.43.53 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Seaside Hill/Rose ~ 7 ~ C ~ 3.51.68 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Seaside Hill/Chaotix ~ 1 ~ C ~ 3.09.21 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Ocean Palace/Sonic ~ 12 ~ D ~ 4.30.78 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Ocean Palace/Dark ~ 6 ~ E ~ 5.31.54 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Ocean Palace/Rose ~ 8 ~ B ~ 3.36.79 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Ocean Palace/Chaotix ~ 8 ~ C ~ 2.54.18 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Grand Metropolis/Sonic ~ 0 ~ D ~ 4.11.16 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Grand Metropolis/Dark ~ 7 ~ E ~ 5.55.06 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Grand Metropolis/Rose ~ 1 ~ C ~ 3.47.61 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Grand Metropolis/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Power Plant/Rose ~ 7 ~ A ~ 2.35.43 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Power Plant/Chaotix ~ 6 ~ B ~ 4.06.53 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Casino Park/Sonic ~ 8 ~ D ~ 4.14.28 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Casino Park/Dark~ 9 ~ D ~ 4.44.51 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Casino Park/Rose ~ 6 ~ A ~ 2.12.26 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Casino Park/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Sonic~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Rose ~ 8 ~ A ~ 3.31.13 ~ knuckles_sonic8
BINGO Highway/Chaotix~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Rail Canyon/Sonic ~ 6 ~ B ~ 4.05.56 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Rail Canyon/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Rail Canyon/Rose ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.30.31 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Rail Canyon/Chaotix ~ 10 ~ D ~ 4.59.69 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Bullet Station/Sonic~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Bullet Station/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Bullet Station/Rose ~ 4 ~ A ~ 02.06.76 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Bullet Station/Chaotix ~ 9 ~ E ~ 10.29.93 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Frog Forest/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Frog Forest/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Frog Forest/Rose ~ 7 ~ A ~ 2.04.11 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Frog Forest/Chaotix ~ 12 ~ C ~ 3.25.89 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Lost Jungle/Rose ~ 8 ~ A ~ 1.48.13 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Lost Jungle/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hang Castle/Sonic ~ 10 ~ E ~ 5.35.16 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Hang Castle/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hang Castle/Rose ~ 3 ~ B ~ 1:42:64 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Hang Castle/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Sonic~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Rose ~ 9 ~ B ~ 2.32.88 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Mystic Mansion/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Rose ~ 12 ~ B ~ 5:44:16 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Egg Fleet/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Rose ~ 9 ~ A ~ 2:37:53 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Final Fortress/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

Shadow Division

The same challenge for Shadow the Hedgehog....I'm really not sure who to ask if you have questions for this. Wait...Ive just recently received word that Groudon199 is the person to ask.

Westopolis/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Westopolis/Neutral ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.11.98 ~ Groudon
Westopolis/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Circuit/Hero ~ 21 ~ A ~ 4.28.18 ~ Groudon
Digital Ciruit/Dark ~ 23 ~ A ~ 6.55.41 ~ Groudon
Glyphic Canyon/Hero ~ 6 ~ A ~ 3.18.00 ~ Groudon
Glyphic Canyon/Neutral ~ 7 ~ A ~ 2.39.55 ~ Groudon
Glyphic Canyon/Dark ~ 7 ~ A ~ 3.14.55 ~ Groudon
Lethal Highway/Hero ~ 0 ~ A ~ 0.13.04 ~ Groudon
Lethal Highway/Dark ~ 4 ~ A ~ 2.33.59 ~ Groudon
Cryptic Castle/Hero ~ 8 ~ A ~ 5.41.64 ~ Groudon
Cryptic Castle/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cryptic Castle/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Hero ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.41.37 ~ Groudon
Circus Park/Neutral ~ 9 ~ A ~ 3.38.79 ~ Groudon
Circus Park/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Hero ~ 8 ~ A ~ 3.41.09 ~ Groudon
Sky Troops/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Dark ~ 9 ~ B ~ 6.29.90 ~ Groudon
Mad Matrix/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The ARK/Neutral ~ 0 ~ E ~ 10.01.28 ~ Groudon
The ARK/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
GUN Fortress/Hero ~ 11 ~ A ~ 4.40.14 ~ Groudon
G.U.N Fortress/Dark ~ 20 ~ A ~ 5.58.04 ~ Groudon
Black Comet/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Black Comet/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lava Shelter/Hero ~ 3 ~ A ~ 3.14.28 ~ Groudon
Lava Shelter/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Last Way ~ 7 ~ 1.51.50 ~ Groudon

Sonic Adventure Division

*shrugs*

Emerald Coast/Sonic ~ 1 ~ 1.23.31 ~ Paragod
Emerald Coast/Gamma ~ 0 ~ 3.18.53 ~ Marth
Windy Valley/Sonic ~ 1 ~ 1.57.25 ~ Paragod
Windy Valley/Gamma ~ 1 ~ 2.46.25 ~ Marth
Casinpolis/Sonic ~ 0 ~ 4.47.76 ~ Nobody
Casinpolis/Knuckles ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Icecap/Sonic ~ 1 ~ 3.07.56 ~ Marth
Twinkle Park/Sonic ~ 1 ~ 3.38.16 ~ Marth
Speed Highway/Sonic ~ 1 ~ 1.46.60 ~ Marth
Speed Highway/Knuckles ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Red Mountain/Sonic ~ 0 ~ 2.49.56 ~ Marth
Red Mountain/Knuckles ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Red Mountain/Gamma ~ 2 ~ 2.14.33 ~ Marth
Sky Deck/Sonic ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Deck/Knuckles ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost World/Sonic ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost World/Knuckles ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Egg/Sonic ~ 2 ~ 2.22.26 ~ Marth
Final Egg/Gamma ~ 0 ~ 3.58.26 ~ Marth
Hot Shelter/Gamma ~ 999 ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

X-5 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2006, 12:43:46 am »

Format is level-time-rank-(A presses)

City Escape 1- 2:20.90, D (0) this could be improved by alot by someone who doesn't suck.
City Escape 5- 2:28.29, E. (0) I was extremely lucky here.
Metal Harbor 1- 1:45.39, D (2)

I just found green hill can be done with 0 presses, but it's not on your list. City escape 3 could be done with just a handful of preses if you pulled off the loop trick, but it's near impossible :/

Ring Rush · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2006, 10:18:24 am »

Cannon's Core and Green Hill are added.

On another note, I've almost reached the third checkpoint in Final Rush without jumps. Does anyone know if I can hop that rail gap that leads to a backwards spring if you don't take it? Or should I just take a jump?

KnucklesSonic8 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2006, 04:53:20 pm »

I love this challenge! It is sweet. Motivated me to go back to SA2B. Thanks.

Did Green Hill, Harbor and Iron Gate:

Green: 0:47:67 - Rank C - 6 A's
Harbor: 1:57:32 - Rank E - 6 A's
Iron Gate: 1:40:52 - Rank D - 4 A's

If you don't mind, I was thinking, why not extend this to Heroes or even Riders? We could have a lot of fun with this, I'm sure! :D

I did Seaside Hill/Sonic with 10 A's (just for the sake of trying it) and 3:59:93 with an E Rank. :P

In Riders, I did Egg Factory and got 2'27"61 and Splash Canyon with 2'09"46 both with 0 A's. The point of the challenge being done in Riders would be to see how well you can master the track without shortcuts (excluding formation-type areas). Just an idea and I dunno if you'll like it but I'm more fond of the Heroes one. I tried Frog Forest but I was on my last life and I died trying to get across after the second checkpoint after I crashed into an enemy. I'll experiment with ALL the stages in Heroes and I'll fill you in on how things turn out.

I look forward to the participation of other people now that it's up.

X-5 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2006, 05:33:11 pm »

I can't because I don't have heros or riders :( i'll definitely participate in SA2 though, because i'm just about sick of regular time attacking.

Green Hill- 59.87, C (0) Under a minute!

City escape 3- 2:18, A (7) didn't pay attention to the exact decimal because i'm used to times auto saving to the file, we'll just call it 2:18.99 to be fair I guess, unless you want me to re-do it.

White jungle- 2:00.92, C (0)

Groudon · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2006, 05:36:27 pm »

The hell with just adding Heroes and Riders, let's see if Shadow would work. I'll quick test a level to see about if levels can be done with under 10 presses of A (0 if possible).

edit: 2:11.98 Westopolis normal (5) A-Rank (it could have been 4, but I screwed up a jump, and one jump might be preventable)

2:56.24 Glyphic Canyon normal (8) A-Rank

2:31.57 Lethal Highway dark (5) A-Rank

1:29.01 Lethal Highway hero (1) A-Rank

5:58.04 GUN Fortress dark (20) A-Rank (there's just too many areas Shadow can't get to without pressing A)

Ring Rush · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:19:01 pm »

This would work in other games too, but I don't have any other sonic games ;_;.

So I could turn this topic into "Minimal A Challenge (SA2(B))" and you can create other topics for those games. Or we could persuade Rolken to add this to the actual high scores list (though I doubt that would happen).

What does everyone else think?

X-5 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:23:07 pm »

Nah, something like this would never fly for official rankings, it's left as a player-made challenge type of thing. Though you could make a geocities site or something with your own custom rankings, which would be easy enough to do and makes it more official.

Ring Rush · « **Reply #8 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:25:43 pm »

I'll see if this gets a bit more participation before I go into making a project like that.

And I updated all the SA:2(B) times posted.

Spinballwizard · « **Reply #9 on:** December 12, 2006, 08:09:11 pm »

Well WJ1 I got 2:16:50 (Near a PR :x), and got a B.

douglas · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2006, 06:16:20 am »

Quote from: Paragod on December 12, 2006, 06:23:07 pm

Nah, something like this would never fly for official rankings, it's left as a player-made challenge type of thing. Though you could make a geocities site or something with your own custom rankings, which would be easy enough to do and makes it more official.

TUSC anyone?

Stefan · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:25:27 am »

I'll participate.

Bilan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 13, 2006, 10:15:16 am »

TUSC is going to use "actual" games and not fan challenges kthx

Thorn · « **Reply #13 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:39:02 pm »

* Thorn seconds above post.

Although I did PM SDM, and he said he'd have no problem with an Emerald Challenges sort of thing on TUSC. I've only thought of about 15 ideas, so I'll be scouting weird ideas like this.

KnucklesSonic8 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 13, 2006, 04:58:58 pm »

I made more attempts in Heroes. Maybe I'll help you out by making a chart for the game and Riders; even Shadow too.

Seaside, Sonic: 5:43:06 - 3 A's - Rank E
Seaside, Dark: 5:43:53 - 20 A's - Rank E (I don't think we should include this one)
Seaside, Rose: 3:51:68 - 7 A's - Rank C
Grand Metropolis, Rose: 3:47:61 - 1 A - Rank C
Casino Park, Rose: 2:12:25 - 6 A's - Rank A

I'm sure that the following should not be permitted:
Power Plant - Sonic
Power Plant - Dark
Lost Jungle - Sonic
Lost Jungle - Dark

Not so sure about Rail Canyon (any teams) either because of all the rail jumping players will do, supposedly.
I'll update the charts in a minute...

Records ~ Heroes

Name ~ "A-Presses" ~ Rank ~ Time ~ Record Holder
Seaside Hill/Sonic ~ 2 ~ E ~ 5.43.06~ knuckles_sonic8
Seaside Hill/Dark ~ 20 ~ E ~ 5.43.53 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Seaside Hill/Rose ~ 7 ~ C ~ 3.51.68 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Seaside Hill/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Ocean Palace/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Ocean Palace/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Ocean Palace/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Ocean Palace/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Grand Metropolis/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Grand Metropolis/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Grand Metropolis/Rose ~ 1~ C ~ 3.47.61 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Grand Metropolis/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Power Plant/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Power Plant/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Casino Park/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Casino Park/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Casino Park/Rose ~ 6 ~ A ~ 2.12.26 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Casino Park/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Sonic~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
BINGO Highway/Chaotix~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Rail Canyon/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Rail Canyon/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Rail Canyon/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Rail Canyon/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Bullet Station/Sonic~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Bullet Station/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Bullet Station/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Bullet Station/Chaotix~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Frog Forest/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Frog Forest/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Frog Forest/Rose~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Frog Forest/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Jungle/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Jungle/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hang Castle/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hang Castle/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hang Castle/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Hang Castle/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Sonic~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Rose~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mystic Mansion/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Dark~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Rose ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Egg Fleet/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Sonic ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Rose~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Fortress/Chaotix ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

Records ~ Riders [Free Race]

Name ~ "A-Presses" ~ Rank ~ Time ~ Record Holder
Metal City ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Splash Canyon ~ 0 ~ 1st ~ 2.09.46 ~ knuckles_sonic8
Egg Factory ~ 0 ~ 1st ~ 2.27.61~ knuckles_sonic8
Sand Ruins ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Babylon Garden ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Dimension ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
SEGA Carnival ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Night Chase ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Red Canyon ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Ice Factory ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Dark Desert ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Road ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Babylon Guardian ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
SEGA Illusion ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

Records ~ Shadow the Hedgehog

Westopolis/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Westopolis/Neutral ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.11.98 ~ Groudon
Westopolis/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Glyphic Canyon/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Glyphic Canyon/Neutral ~ 8 ~ A ~ 2.56.24 ~ Groudon
Glyphic Canyon/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Circuit/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Circuit/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Circuit/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lethal Highway/Hero ~ 1 ~ A ~ 1.29.01 ~ Groudon
Lethal Highway/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lethal Highway/Dark ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.31.57 ~ Groudon
Prison Island/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The ARK/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The ARK/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The ARK/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
G.U.N Fortress/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
G.U.N Fortress/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
G.U.N Fortress/Dark ~ 20 ~ A ~ 5.58.04 ~ Groudon
Black Comet/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Black Comet/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Black Comet/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lava Shelter/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lava Shelter/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lava Shelter/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Last Way ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

Ring Rush, just copy these charts to your first post will you so it'll be easier to find when we wanna take a look at how everyone's doing. Thanks.

Ring Rush · « **Reply #15 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:24:09 pm »

I added in the Hero's division. As soon as you are completely done with the Shadow chart, I'll let that in too.

I'm a little shaky about Riders however, as to my understanding it is pretty much a racing game. It doesn't seem like it would be the same.

Shadow Jacky · « **Reply #16 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:27:47 pm »

eh....maybe I'll try

Blitz · « **Reply #17 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:31:50 pm »

If you wanted to, you could add Wild Canyon 1. It can be done in 0 presses, using SM's strat.
Piece 3:Spiral Upper, rotate control stick and b
2/1:Just remove use of gliding to gain some speed.
Though no one would try that due to the fact they waste enough time going for the record...
Did we add Sonic Adventure/Dx yet? That might be fun... (maybe a minimal a&b challenge would be fun....)
EDIT: Move this to competition central some1, would ya?

Ring Rush · « **Reply #18 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:37:39 pm »

Not just Wild Canyon, but all hunting missions 1s are off the list due to randomness.

And while I'm talking about cuts, the 2 Route levels are off for obvious reasons.

Groudon · « **Reply #19 on:** December 13, 2006, 05:51:41 pm »

Quick fix of ks8's Shadow chart. Not every level has a hero, normal, and dark mission. You also left out Cryptic Castle and put Glyphic Canyon at the wrong spot.

Fixed chart:

Westopolis/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Westopolis/Neutral ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.11.98 ~ Groudon
Westopolis/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Circuit/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Digital Circuit/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Glyphic Canyon/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Glyphic Canyon/Neutral ~ 8 ~ A ~ 2.56.24 ~ Groudon
Glyphic Canyon/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lethal Highway/Hero ~ 1 ~ A ~ 1.29.01 ~ Groudon
Lethal Highway/Dark ~ 5 ~ A ~ 2.31.57 ~ Groudon
Cryptic Castle/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cryptic Castle/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cryptic Castle/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Prison Island/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Circus Park/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Central City/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Doom/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Sky Troops/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Mad Matrix/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Death Ruins/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The ARK/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The ARK/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Air Fleet/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Iron Jungle/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Space Gadget/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lost Impact/Neutral ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
G.U.N Fortress/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
G.U.N Fortress/Dark ~ 20 ~ A ~ 5.58.04 ~ Groudon
Black Comet/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Black Comet/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lava Shelter/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Lava Shelter/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Cosmic Fall/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Hero ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
Final Haunt/Dark ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody
The Last Way ~ 999 ~ F ~ 0.00.00 ~ Nobody

KnucklesSonic8 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 13, 2006, 06:39:29 pm »

Quote from: SilvertheAlmighty on December 13, 2006, 05:31:50 pm

Did we add Sonic Adventure/Dx yet? That might be fun... (maybe a minimal a&b challenge would be fun....)
EDIT: Move this to competition central some1, would ya?

On my way home from school I was thinking about that. Maybe I'll do a few runs and check it out.

And Ring Rush, trust me, Riders could still work. Yes, it is a racing game but trust me that's not all that's there for each track. As I mentioned earlier, the challenge would be good because you'd be seeing how a person would do without using non-formation type (e.g., Speed, Flight, Power) shortcuts (which requires the usage of the A Button). But if you don't wanna add it, then scrap it. I don't mind.

But seriously, let's do SA too.

Oh, and Groudon, I knew you'd help me with the chart so it was kinda like a rough cut of it. Ring rush, don't forget to take Groudon's updated chart not my old one, okay? Thanks, G.

Groudon · « **Reply #21 on:** December 13, 2006, 06:45:21 pm »

Circus Park/Neutral ~ 9 ~ A ~ 3.38.79
Lava Shelter/Hero ~ 3 ~ A ~ 3.14.28

Also a brief fact. Pressing Up when hanging from a ledge in Shadow will have him get up to the ledge without having to press A. Pressing X has a similar effect when on a pulley. A isn't technically pressed, which leads me to believe somewhere around 15 can be done on GUN Fortress for the Dark mission.

KnucklesSonic8 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 13, 2006, 07:16:17 pm »

Hang Castle - Rose: 3 A's, 1:42:64, Rank B (2, 1 or even 0 A's are possible)
Egg Fleet/Rose: 12 A's, 5:44:16, Rank B
Final Fortres/Rose : 9 A's, 2:37:53 (challenging) Rank A

Also, who's sonic_knuckles8? :P

sonicam · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2006, 07:26:37 pm »

Seaside Hill / Sonic

Time: 4:34:76
Score: 52430
Rank: C
A Button presses: 2

Ring Rush · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2006, 07:34:21 pm »

I'll put these scores in in a second.

Sonic: I'm keeping the B rank score you talked about over chat in, it has a higher rank.

Marth · « **Reply #25 on:** December 13, 2006, 08:24:47 pm »

Quote from: knuckles_sonic8 on December 13, 2006, 06:39:29 pm

Quote from: SilvertheAlmighty on December 13, 2006, 05:31:50 pm
Did we add Sonic Adventure/Dx yet? That might be fun... (maybe a minimal a&b challenge would be fun....)
EDIT: Move this to competition central some1, would ya?

On my way home from school I was thinking about that. Maybe I'll do a few runs and check it out.

And Ring Rush, trust me, Riders could still work. Yes, it is a racing game but trust me that's not all that's there for each track. As I mentioned earlier, the challenge would be good because you'd be seeing how a person would do without using non-formation type (e.g., Speed, Flight, Power) shortcuts (which requires the usage of the A Button). But if you don't wanna add it, then scrap it. I don't mind.

But seriously, let's do SA too.

Oh, and Groudon, I knew you'd help me with the chart so it was kinda like a rough cut of it. Ring rush, don't forget to take Groudon's updated chart not my old one, okay? Thanks, G.

Yeah, do SA. I think I'd try it.

Um, about Riders, a no-A run would just mean no proper use of ramps, and no use of rails.
How does flying or punching use the A button?

Groudon · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2006, 09:00:11 pm »

Flying, just go off the flight ramps. A isn't required.
And punching, just run into a breakable object.

X-5 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2006, 06:16:19 am »

SA huh? well, here's a few completions just for Marth, because I know he can easily demolish them.

New format because SA has no ranks: Level - Time (A presses)

Emerald Coast, 1:23.31 (1) This would be 0 if you didn't have to jump on the capsule.

Windy Valley, 1:57.25 (9) Again 1 for the capsule.

SadisticMystic · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2006, 06:38:52 am »

You could get 1:35 or maybe 1:34 with 0 presses on Emerald Coast. Remember that the first time you play the level, you just have to tag Tails, which doesn't involve jumping. To overcompensate for this lack of precision required, though, 10 seconds are added to your time when the goal doesn't involve a capsule.

Stefan · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:55:42 pm »

Sa2 stats..

Green hill: 0 presses, c rank, 53.94

green forest: 0 presses, A rank (forreal) 4:06.62

wild canyon: 0 presses, A rank, 1:08:19

city escape: 0 presses, C rank, 4:03.17

white jungle, 0 presses, b rank, 2:08.22

also allow hunting m1s.. it's skillfull regardless of luck. you don't need perfect layout to get a 0 press wc1.

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