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General Sonic / Finished my rings TAS.
« on: December 27, 2014, 12:29:52 pm »
Figured I'd post this here too even though it's not related to the competition at all. I had a thread about it a long time ago and you guys were very helpful with any questions I had about certain rings that were harder to get, and I credited a few ring attack players in particular in the notes.
Enjoy and thanks for watching.
Genesis Sonic 3 & Knuckles (World) "Knuckles, ring attack" in 1:14:55.9 by TheYogWog.
Enjoy and thanks for watching.
Genesis Sonic 3 & Knuckles (World) "Knuckles, ring attack" in 1:14:55.9 by TheYogWog.
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Competition Central / Re: S3K: Single segment full game real time ring runs.
« on: December 27, 2014, 11:00:16 am »
Single sitting would be ideal.
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Competition Central / S3K: Single segment full game real time ring runs.
« on: December 27, 2014, 10:34:24 am »
So I get that TSC is more about IL's and getting as much out of them as possible, and maybe single segment runs are a better fit for SDA, but right now their S3K section is strictly speedruns, and at the same time this place is pretty much The place where people go to practice ring attacking.
So what do you think about the potential of single segment RA's? Could it ever really become a thing, or is such a thing too hard and not enough people are willing to compete?
The existing rules for ILs would have to be changed a little to make the concept work, of course.
To see even one legit submission I think would be amazing just based on the amount of practice it would surely take to perform. In speedrunning there's a lot of impressive moments and difficult tricks they use, this would be the same but on a larger scale.
So what do you think about the potential of single segment RA's? Could it ever really become a thing, or is such a thing too hard and not enough people are willing to compete?
The existing rules for ILs would have to be changed a little to make the concept work, of course.
To see even one legit submission I think would be amazing just based on the amount of practice it would surely take to perform. In speedrunning there's a lot of impressive moments and difficult tricks they use, this would be the same but on a larger scale.
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Competition Central / Re: Sonic 3&K Questions
« on: February 04, 2014, 02:21:09 pm »
Hello TSC, it's been a while. Turns out I haven't had that many more questions to ask, or I was able to solve them on my own without posting here. For exapmle SOZ1, which I posted about before, I found a way to get the 3 rings in the wall by falling from a sufficient height. It's probably impossible to get more than 1 of them in regular (unassisted) play however, unless there's some way of triggering the slope glitch in this level - but I don't believe there is.
Still, thanks again to eveyrone as this site has been a great help especially some of the RA videos posted in the random .giz topic. As of right now, I'm half way through my full game ring run TAS and the only rings I shouldn't be able to get are from mutually exclusive sign post monitors, and all the ones in Sonic's starting and boss areas in LRZ1 and 2, respectively. Which, I think it's widely accepted that it's impossible to get those as Knuckles, so I don't think there's much I can do about that.
The only remaining question I have should be have to do with those 3 capsules in Flying Battery 1. When you step on them, 6 rings come out, 3 in either direction. Even in a TAS setting I've found it again, basically impossible to get all 18 of them. So I'm just wondering how you guys go about getting them, if they're included in ring totals for that act, and how do you know a given amount is maxed if it doesn't include all 18 of them?
Also I'm just curious to see if they're included at all and what the basis or explanation is for that decision, since they don't really behave like normal individual rings in the rest of the game. I'm not sure if I should include them or not, for that reason. Thanks.
Still, thanks again to eveyrone as this site has been a great help especially some of the RA videos posted in the random .giz topic. As of right now, I'm half way through my full game ring run TAS and the only rings I shouldn't be able to get are from mutually exclusive sign post monitors, and all the ones in Sonic's starting and boss areas in LRZ1 and 2, respectively. Which, I think it's widely accepted that it's impossible to get those as Knuckles, so I don't think there's much I can do about that.
The only remaining question I have should be have to do with those 3 capsules in Flying Battery 1. When you step on them, 6 rings come out, 3 in either direction. Even in a TAS setting I've found it again, basically impossible to get all 18 of them. So I'm just wondering how you guys go about getting them, if they're included in ring totals for that act, and how do you know a given amount is maxed if it doesn't include all 18 of them?
Also I'm just curious to see if they're included at all and what the basis or explanation is for that decision, since they don't really behave like normal individual rings in the rest of the game. I'm not sure if I should include them or not, for that reason. Thanks.
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Competition Central / Re: Sonic 3&K Questions
« on: September 15, 2013, 04:37:17 am »
Thanks, flying fox that was exactly what I needed to know. I was able to get the ICZ2 rings by using a precise superglide instead of the slope glitch. I even managed to locate and collect the 3 rings I missed in SOZ2 as well, just by chance as I was looking around the map earlier. Do you happen to know if there's any way to obtain all 3 wall rings in SOZ1, as well?
TimpZ I didn't know that about those programs, so far as I said I've just been relying on the maps and information at Sonic Zone Zero. According to those sources I should have all of the rings accounted for at this point, after today, however I will look into using them to help verify the totals listed for each level.
TimpZ I didn't know that about those programs, so far as I said I've just been relying on the maps and information at Sonic Zone Zero. According to those sources I should have all of the rings accounted for at this point, after today, however I will look into using them to help verify the totals listed for each level.
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Competition Central / Sonic 3&K Questions
« on: September 14, 2013, 08:05:03 am »
In this thread I would just like to post any questions I might have regarding ring totals in S3K and maybe glitches and other stuff as well. I'm posting it here instead of Sonic General, if that's all right, because this seems like the better place to discuss a lot of the more obscure details of a particular game. I hope you all won't mind me asking and will be able to help me out, thanks.
Here's my first question: According to Sonic Zone 0, in ICZ2, there are 479 regular rings + 20 monitor rings = 499 total rings eligible. In my practice run of this act, I did collect 479 rings - but that amount includes the 20 monitor rings. I'm pretty sure I didn't miss 20 rings somewhere, so could it be that SZZ's data is inaccurate? Like maybe they're counting the 20 monitor rings twice? Or is the 479 perhaps including the 17 regular rings which were obtainable only in act 1, but are technically part of act 2? In that case, there's only 462 regular rings obtainable in act 2, + 20 monitor rings = 482, which means I only would have missed 3, which is a lot more feasible than missing 20.
Which brings me to my next question: Even if I did miss 3 rings in ICZ2, it's hard to see where, which makes me wonder if there's not some rings hidden inside a wall somewhere. I know that's the case for SOZ1, there's 3 rings inside a wall and AFAIK only 1 of them can be gotten and only by using the lightning shield. Are there any other levels where this happens? I'm also apparently missing 3 in SOZ2 and I'm not sure why, 361/364, so if there are a few regular rings hidden in the walls in these levels that would be a relief.
TL;DR: I seem to be missing at least 3 rings in ICZ2 and SOZ2 and I don't know where, I think they may be stuck in a random wall somewhere, can anyone verify or any other suggestions? I should mention this is all part of my research for a possible full game TAS RA as Knuckles. I'm choosing not to include rings gained from super rings in this RA, so totals will consist solely of regular rings + monitor rings. Thanks again
Here's my first question: According to Sonic Zone 0, in ICZ2, there are 479 regular rings + 20 monitor rings = 499 total rings eligible. In my practice run of this act, I did collect 479 rings - but that amount includes the 20 monitor rings. I'm pretty sure I didn't miss 20 rings somewhere, so could it be that SZZ's data is inaccurate? Like maybe they're counting the 20 monitor rings twice? Or is the 479 perhaps including the 17 regular rings which were obtainable only in act 1, but are technically part of act 2? In that case, there's only 462 regular rings obtainable in act 2, + 20 monitor rings = 482, which means I only would have missed 3, which is a lot more feasible than missing 20.
Which brings me to my next question: Even if I did miss 3 rings in ICZ2, it's hard to see where, which makes me wonder if there's not some rings hidden inside a wall somewhere. I know that's the case for SOZ1, there's 3 rings inside a wall and AFAIK only 1 of them can be gotten and only by using the lightning shield. Are there any other levels where this happens? I'm also apparently missing 3 in SOZ2 and I'm not sure why, 361/364, so if there are a few regular rings hidden in the walls in these levels that would be a relief.
TL;DR: I seem to be missing at least 3 rings in ICZ2 and SOZ2 and I don't know where, I think they may be stuck in a random wall somewhere, can anyone verify or any other suggestions? I should mention this is all part of my research for a possible full game TAS RA as Knuckles. I'm choosing not to include rings gained from super rings in this RA, so totals will consist solely of regular rings + monitor rings. Thanks again
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Competition Central / Re: The Random .giz Topic
« on: September 06, 2013, 08:53:13 am »829 Launch Base 2 Knuckles, 89100 score.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but why doesn't Knuckles transform when gliding? Even without a shield.
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Hiya Folks / Hey
« on: September 03, 2013, 11:50:26 am »
Hey everyone. I'm not really here to compete, I hope that's ok. For the last few months, I've been learning to TAS and working on a series of TAS Ring Attacks for S3K, mostly as Knuckles. I'm almost done with all of the individual acts now, so I'm starting to look at doing a full game run, but I still have a lot to learn. Honestly, I only mean to use the forums to ask the occasional question about certain glitches and ring totals for the levels. Please visit my channel if you would like to see any of my movies so far and feel free to message me if you want. Thanks.
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