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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: ATTN: Sonicspeedruner, Nicur, and R3FR4G

« on: January 25, 2023, 12:07:31 am »

Thank you for all of your contributions guys, think it's safe to say no one is cheating here and we can move on. sonicandamy, please don't call BS on people unless you actually have reasonable suspicion and evidence of foul play lol.

R3FR4G, I don't think there's any need to pedantically remove your stats from the charts that were obtained with only graphic/cosmetic game mods, as there is no evidence that said mods actually affect gameplay mechanics.

are you kidding me? R3FR4G admitted to mods and also admitted to not knowing the submission rules (it only takes one of them) and ((by the rules is not allowed)), we all agreed long ago that graphics/cosmetics can alter time because of how soniccenter tracks times  it in fact can be possible to alter in game even with a simple cosmetic mod ... even by milliseconds which in a sonic game is HUGE.

dont get me wrong im not trying to demonize anyone, I want R3FR4G to TRULEY GET THE TIME he submited to TSC, do the run AGAIN world record this time with no mods. lets see it.

for the record I believe I could easily get a 57:95 with the same mods though.

Edit: I believe Speedrunners "run" appeal, as my first IL's ever where filmed this way, but with a nokia phone instead of an ipad1

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: ATTN: Sonicspeedruner, Nicur, and R3FR4G

« on: August 04, 2022, 09:30:34 pm »

Thanks very much for chiming in, yeah I suspected they may just be playing the original PC version.

That just leaves Sonicspeedruner to investigate but I'm not convinced of any foul play here. He's got a lot of other Sonic runs on his channel (also of SA2B and Heroes) going back almost a decade, all awkwardly camera-recorded on the same TV, you can see the gradual improvement and they seem legit.

Not quite, thats not how this works. If you are to believe both of them are using the 2004 PC release then check again here: niczur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3r4LDbghE look at his HUD closer if the randoms statement is correct than he is using a closer accurate version perfect right? ok now check refrag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIeODuVI-Vo apparently using the same version of the game as the random user said but his HUD is MUCH smaller, thats not possible (plus the health bar is still blinkin man... lol).

"at least 1" has to be bullshit in this situation. let alone speedrunner at this piont

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: ATTN: Sonicspeedruner, Nicur, and R3FR4G

« on: July 29, 2022, 03:53:22 pm »

My bad, I ment to put this here https://youtu.be/IT7-8WLgdgc as reference on how shitty the game is suppose to look.

I believe I remember like 15 years ago when we was talking sonic generations we all agreed that even cosmetic mods were banned too; had to be a completely clean game, this is serious buisness in a professional setting not a beauty pageant for sonic. Niczur actually looks the closest to legit and how its suppose to look, but idk what going on with everyones jacked up aspect ratios??? these arent clean.

im going back through the charts to clean this stuff up since TSC gona be poppin again like 2008 with sonic origins and sonic frontiers.

*** EDIT *** as far as speedrunner is concerned go look at that video thats muted. whats going on? look at the room. first clip its just his box... maybe a dvr box? 2nd clip theres now a stick of deodorant on the dvr box like he just started gettin sweaty from makin fake runs,  3rd clip the direction of the deodorant has changed? 4th clip the camera is zoomed in and the deodorant is gone from the view 5th clip its zoomed back out and the deodorant is clearly gone... bro wth.

its 2020 by this point, why you gota make such sus videos?!? xD

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Leaderboard Disputes / ATTN: Sonicspeedruner, Nicur, and R3FR4G

« on: July 28, 2022, 11:24:01 pm »

Sonicspeedruner you posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfQAvHdtP9U this is obviously cropped gameplay as that is not how the game would appear on a TV the ring icon is cut off on your TV and you may actually have multiple fake times cuz on the same TV you have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3pMfbrSDUE boss fights were the ring and the "T" is less cropped out and also no audio randomly on this one lol GG cheater. (seriously look more into this guy)

Nicur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3r4LDbghE Is correct me if im wrong also emulator and is against the rules (believe this was a genuine mistake uploading to the boards)

R3FR4G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIeODuVI-Vo SUPER OBVIOUS emulator/modded the health bar starts blinking on chaos. this is also against the rules, would love to see that strat implemented in a gamecube run though. (genuine mistake upload... probably)

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: ATTN: ring rush

« on: April 19, 2022, 11:48:35 pm »

First of all, you know there are better places to get my attention than a dead forum that someone happened to mention to me about. If you're going to accuse me of cheating (and yes, I consider claims of advanced controller input cheating), then you should at least do it in a place where it is reasonable to expect me to see it.

I do use dolphin when I TAS, but all my RTAs are 100% on a wii (or lately a wii u), with a wiimote.

A lot of my times are from long before Dolphin existed or had proper wii support. If you're specifically concerned about more recent ones, here are some videos and proofs of runs I've done in the last several years (admittedly I haven't done a ton). These aren't all on the site because I stopped submitting to this site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF1lNyGOzUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LTGcaZ0eNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Hy2s_fXkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBspNIzdcTQ
https://twitter.com/RusherOfRings/status/1147990052783325184


You can see both the video quality gap and the play gap between these and the videos I post of TASes (on Twitter, or further below in this post). The PS9 video pretty explicitly shows that I'm playing on a TV. Technically it doesn't "prove" anything because I could just be displaying an emulator run on a TV and then re-capturing, but these are clearly timestamped as done years ago and not in response to this. I've also played Secret Rings live in front of people before, and streamed me doing Alf Layla with controller cam on Twitch before.

I agree that advanced controller input gives a massive advantage. And I am a huge advocate of using proper control schemes, and have campaigned for more restrictions on controllers across multiple games including storybook sonic games. My main motivation for this is that I don't want someone using some trivializing control scheme when I've put a lot of effort into using motion controls to the best of my ability.

I'll leave you with this - it's a tool assisted reference point. This is a better approximation of the kind of time you get if you use Dolphin and their implementation of "hold key down to automatically shake", not baby 45.21 like I have or a 45.31 like you have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRe897evQik

actually disgusted, you know we are both boomers now with access to more tech than we know what to do with. all you did is post clips of less than 30 second speed runs that you can easily replicate as a human while dodging full hard to replicate speed runs without super human shaking, then in the last sentence you actually mention you know how to cheat but you dont... (kappa) and mention you know the perfect time for a boss... so you can technically just hold the button a little less than someone really playing and appear to be legit right? kinda explains same day/next day beating of certain records.

Bro you the only one that knows how to cheat on the wii like this especially THAT far back in the day how do you explain this?

you the only one of the few back in the SSR days using dolphin too on the wii? did you use that on your wii for records too? I fell like skylights/stefan is the true champion of this board. someone needs to investigate this hard.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: Finally turning myself in after 11 1/2 years

« on: March 08, 2021, 08:05:26 pm »

Try DMing Gerbilsoft, he is pretty much the sole person who keeps the site up and has the most (if not all) the say-so as far as restoration of your account

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Leaderboard Disputes / ATTN: ring rush

« on: February 21, 2021, 01:04:12 am »

Im glad I finally got my voice back this needed to be said a long time ago, Im not opening accusing ring rush of cheating but I am openingly accusing ringrush of using emulator for SSR which gives him and unfair advantage in 99% of runs and advanced controller input, that is why he won't post any videos of his record runs

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: Why is Sonicandamy still banned?

« on: February 17, 2021, 10:31:52 am »

nvm I remembered it IM IN! But I do still have a problem with my account being linked to an email that doesnt exist anymore

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News and Updates / Re: Sonic Rivals rankings up

« on: January 28, 2007, 02:45:49 pm »

sweet! STH GBA is like the best *goes to compete*

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Hiya Folks / Re: Hey there.

« on: January 28, 2007, 02:29:38 pm »

I hear ya lil buddy i'll save you *slips on randomly placed piss and falls in da lava"

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Hiya Folks / Re: Hi there :)

« on: January 28, 2007, 02:15:30 pm »

o0o0o death by STH GBA, it will be a classic. welcome, TEH FA SONIC CENTER ICCCCCCCCEEEEEE

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Information Kiosk / Re: New Competition Suggestions

« on: January 25, 2007, 07:35:17 pm »

whoa, they really made rivals i thought they were kidding?!!? i thought that crap project would get canceled?? can you really play that game?

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Hiya Folks / Re: Hey there.

« on: January 25, 2007, 07:27:50 pm »

poeple keep spamming the quote that = death it's going to get old... well then again, if it wasn't spammed Groundon couldn't keep the awsome kill count. the day theres more murders then members 4 teh win

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Wikkity! / Re: Official Unfunniest Chatroom Quotes

« on: January 25, 2007, 07:22:50 pm »

i don't get it, i almost( if not already) have the most quotes. yet, almost none of these deal with me.  dont make me use meh dailup and get back on!

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: I call BS on Nelspike TX

« on: January 25, 2007, 07:20:39 pm »

isn't TSC lieing policy "no mercy?" ban tis piece of crap </flame>

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Competition Central / Re: Early Sonic 06 Competition Topic

« on: January 25, 2007, 07:18:28 pm »

o? i was unaware someone beat that record ... lol dont worry i'll get it back.

At least SOMEONE can compete with me.

now that you mention it... it's not really a boss, i'll have to think about it. plus i said i wouldn't post stats for this crap till the real deal comes up

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General Sonic / Re: revelation of the century?? could it be??

« on: January 25, 2007, 07:15:57 pm »

Mephiles's song sounds like mephiles's song

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General Sonic / Re: revelation of the century?? could it be??

« on: January 24, 2007, 11:43:56 am »

just your* imagination?

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Competition Central / Re: Early Sonic 06 Competition Topic

« on: January 23, 2007, 09:36:19 pm »

o? i was unaware someone beat that record ... lol dont worry i'll get it back.

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Beef / Re: Why Andy/oldskoolgamer is banned

« on: January 23, 2007, 09:30:05 pm »

hmm... sounds like a good deal

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 21, 2007, 10:49:58 am »

didn't see that coming

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 03:56:44 pm »

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P3D3WHZV  grab some popcorn.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 02:24:01 pm »

ok, i have his video, stoping talking about me, and give me a link to upload this video (not youtube my account there is going gay for some odd reason)

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 12:22:46 pm »

well can they please provide the evidence, I still stand by my client as not guilty "phoniex wright- OBJECTION!" but, maybe the main reason that you cant find a log is that he didn't?

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 11:59:43 am »

I seems doubtful but, he had every intention to making this right when he got back. it just seems like he got alot of pressure because he was gone. and then after 2 weeks when he finally came back this topic already flared up into a whole big mess. but he changed his times as soon as he got to my house.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 11:45:54 am »

he could of just gave you a list and made you remove all his times, but no he saw his error and reset them himself.

EDIT: o ya, not to mention the times were his first submissions, after that they were all honest rings and score records.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 11:37:10 am »

he started doing the TAing before the "you cant restart your time in midlevel rule was up"

oh sure, that explains why after the first time we caught him doing it, and warned him about it, he did it again.

do you have proof of this?(chat log and a submission date) I said I think but im pretty sure he didn't.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 11:33:05 am »

I think it'd help this get resolved if you let him make his excuses instead of doing it for him.

I could, but I know how you guys play this bs game, and it's pretty dirty from old topic's ive seen. and if i just left this alone, and knowing his attitude towards this he might already of been banned, so im not just an excuss im more of a ... friendly translater.  he reset all his time's, and thats his apology (some people apologize in different ways) and. now everything is fixed and it's just being way past drawn out by you. when im 99.99% sure he will never do this again. we have nothing else to worry about. but hay, this is a public chat we can keep on talking about this if you want.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 20, 2007, 10:31:01 am »

guys... calm down, he's one of those people that gets mad when you start calling things he "really" did (cause I did see these and you guys have chat log of it) he could even get a sample scorce of one of his levels and I could take a pic if ya want it wouldnt take but a couple of mins and i think if it's to not get him banned he'll probubly do it? besides, this how thing started because of ours sites crapy rules. he started doing the TAing before the "you cant restart your time in midlevel rule was up" i remember because I was in the chat while someone said "modifies  rules" and then after all his work you guys change the rules and try to take them all away? im sure he was probubly pissed after you guys came up to him with this amiright? this was all just a simple  complex mistake, but an accident that should be looked over.  and to prove he's not just a flat out lier look up when that rule went up, proving that he really did not want to lie and look when his last TA time went up. I think he stoped TAing when the new rule came up.

SUMMARY:I think he didn't want to lie but didn't want to lose all his times he worked a long time to get. I CALL "GUYS YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK OVER THE FACTS MORE CAREFULY before the whole lolban crap"

EDIT: bertin is still talking it just he's pming rolken cuz he's tired of talking to you guys.

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Leaderboard Disputes / Re: bertin's STT times

« on: January 19, 2007, 07:38:28 pm »

You havent proved this.

lmao............. no really i'll whip out the pic, dont make me...