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Sonic Heroes - Team Blast Glitch [Resolved] (updates in first post)
sonicam:
--- Quote from: Spinballwizard on December 04, 2006, 11:38:02 am ---
--- Quote from: sonicam on December 04, 2006, 10:51:12 am ---Long story short, ban TBG from all divisions except Rings-Chaotix.
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My opinion, it has to be all or nothing. Because quite frankly, TBG could, depending on the number of enemies in a level and how many appear onscreen at a time, completely throw away ring competition for Chaotix. In a sense, with TBG active, RAing Chaotix is more about luck than skill, which is why casino levels get tossed already. I wasn't really a fan of Chaotix rings anyways. :/
Albeit there's still room to manipulate parts without TBG, and depending on the number of enemies and the number of rings you get from them you could get a decent charge on your next TB quite quickly.
That said, I've never knowingly used TBG, except maybe on Egg Emperor Sonic, but I mash square on that (and the other teams) while in the air when he's standing still. (I have near or max level Tails anyways, which is more effective for me.) But Not really anywhere else.
Also, I believe the point was made that TBG on some dark levels is actually slower at points. (If I recall, yoshifan's Grand Metropolis vid uses no TBG.)
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lolwut Spinny? :X Rings Chaotix is still going to be on luck regardless if TBG is allowed, now if you want to ban TB, then that's a different story. The equivalent of a TBG Chaotix-Rings level is a 20+ minute non-TBG level. It's just a waste of time. Either you use TBG or you just sit there using Flight formation's Thundershoot to build up your gauge. Rings Chaotix will always be on luck, only until TB is banned from Rings Chaotix, which isn't going to happen since we do keep track of Knux/ Rouge M1s. Allowing TBG for Rings Chaotix just makes things a lot less annoying, that's all.
Yes, that's true, that's true with or with out TBG, that's just using TB. I'm only talking about Rings Chaotix, nothing else.
No, I didn't mean on Dark stages, I'm sure that all Dark stages have the potential of being at it's max with the use of TBG, I meant for all other characters, in which TBG is only used as an enemy clearing attack. yoshi's GM record isn't the record for GM. magnum has it and he used TBG.
eredani:
Now that we're moving TBG to freestyle, I made a list of players who have used TBG.
smizzla - All stats have used TBG
videogamemaster777 - All Boss stats and Dark Times
Rayku - All Boss stats and Dark times
PsyBorg - Egg Albatross All, Robot Storm All
PsyMar - All Boss and Dark Times except Power Plant and Egg Hawk, unsure about Egg Emperor non-dark and FF Dark. FF Chaotix Extra.
Cybrax - Most Bosses, unsure about most stages.
Chao_Fan - All Dark Stages and Bosses, Mystic Mansion Sonic/Chaotix, and I think Final Fortress Sonic/Chaotix Extra
GravyTrain33 - All Dark Times and Bosses, unsure about this.
KnucklesSonic8:
Cool, TBG is being moved to Freestyle! YAY! Finally, I'll have a better chance at obtaining Times, Boss stats and other stuff here and there. :D
I mentioned this before but just to be clear, none of any of my stats have ever used TBG.
yse:
--- Quote from: magnum12 on December 04, 2006, 11:25:45 am ----That list is pretty good. I think you should add Ocean Palace and Hang Castle to the Extra Chaotix missions section, since stealth missions probably could benefit from TBG.
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How so? To the extent that you could wipe out an entire set of enemies before they see you? I suppose, I'll tentatively add them to the list.
--- Quote from: magnum12 on December 04, 2006, 11:25:45 am ---Egg Emperor: Dark (My 47 second time is legit.)
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Yeah, I know, I just got 49"88 last night. X)
--- Quote from: Spinballwizard ---In a sense, with TBG active, RAing Chaotix is more about luck than skill, which is why casino levels get tossed already. I wasn't really a fan of Chaotix rings anyways. :/
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Now here's an idea. Scrap Chaotix rings entirely!
Also thanks to eredani for the list - along with that, there should be a list of charts that have a lot of TBG'd stats like the three I mentioned. Generally it's boss charts. (see PsyBorg's times)
magnum12:
How does TBG beneift Mystic Mansion (Sonic) asides from the obvious take out the giants with heavy armor? In regards to stealth missions, a TB has decent range. During a run of Metal Madness, I calculated the approximate range to be about 4-5 body lengths (assuming speed formation is used), more than enough range to take out an entire squad of enemies before they see you if you do it right.
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