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Sonic Heroes - Team Blast Glitch [Resolved] (updates in first post)
Auriman1:
--- Quote from: yse on December 04, 2006, 06:41:10 pm ---Now here's an idea. Scrap Chaotix rings entirely!
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I'd have to agree with this. Chaotix rings is somewhat very random to begin with.
Groudon:
--- Quote from: Auriman1 on December 04, 2006, 08:29:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: yse on December 04, 2006, 06:41:10 pm ---Now here's an idea. Scrap Chaotix rings entirely!
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I'd have to agree with this. Chaotix rings is somewhat very random to begin with.
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You mean like Casino Park with Chaotix and Casino Park and Bingo Highway extra missions with Rose?
yse:
--- Quote from: magnum12 on December 04, 2006, 08:17:52 pm ---How does TBG beneift Mystic Mansion (Sonic) asides from the obvious take out the giants with heavy armor?
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It doesn't. That was the only reason I could see for its use - and well planned it shouldn't come into play, but you can never assume things like that.
Auriman1:
--- Quote from: Groudon on December 04, 2006, 08:36:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: Auriman1 on December 04, 2006, 08:29:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: yse on December 04, 2006, 06:41:10 pm ---Now here's an idea. Scrap Chaotix rings entirely!
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I'd have to agree with this. Chaotix rings is somewhat very random to begin with.
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You mean like Casino Park with Chaotix and Casino Park and Bingo Highway extra missions with Rose?
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Yeah. A random ring container variable from using Team Blast for every last enemy in the Chaotix stages can cause some serious differences in final ring amounts from pure luck. I might make an estimate of just how much it can differ for a level, if I'm feeling bored.
Edit: I wasn't bored, but I was curious. I checked Seaside Hill and found 43 enemies. If you can get 5, 10, or 20 rings for each enemy, there is a potential 645-ring difference in this level alone from luck. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Shadow Jacky:
you have to take some things into consideration when using TB. With Dark its commonplace because of time freeze (magnum has made this known due to his super low times on some dark stages). Also the fact that I have matched or done better when I didn't use TBG. That still doesn't mean it wont work all the time...like it was said, you have to plan it out.
from my experiences, with sonic its useless entirely. The only benefit they get is sonic using his light dash attack. on all of their stages, you can get a TB ready to go when you think it would be good, but most of the time is spent speeding though the stage and skipping stuff enitely which they tend to do because of lack of enemies. Rose is also self-explanatory with the powerups they get to ensure they get the most of their shorter stages (well from point A to the goal ring at least). Chaotix is a mixed bag, but MM, PP and FF are 3 prime spots for the TBG to actually succeed in their favor. This is just with time though as with scores it scores it takes some tweaks to what you did before.
also the fact that if you are going to use this move, that you know how to pull it off without messing up so much. from an empty guage it takes 3 full glitches to fill it up. doing this eliminates most of the wait it takes to get a full one when you need it espeically when a run isn't doing to well and you need one now but its taking too long to build up naturally.
My replacements for the TBG are these:
-finding a TB capsule or balloon. you'd be surprised where some are located and maybe those who RA a lot know where they are and can exploit them.
-using power characters for groups. magnum had made a note in another tbg topic that gaining tbg faster than normal was like combo attacks in MVC2 (Marvel vs Capcom 2). in this case, its better with a power character becaus ethey deal way more damage output than whats needed and those bits get transferred into the guage. other than that, using someone else would result in what Shadow The Hedgehog does. Each enemies has a certain point factor that goes towards either guage. The bigger the enemy, the more guage recovers.
-dealing with the situation. If I was to get thrown into a position that I had used TBG before, I would find another way...simple as that. Most of the time this works well especially when I goof off and stumble upon a shortcut or 2 (FF did this for me)
There is also an alternative that I didn't notice until I was doing FF with chaotix. you can also build your guage up by collecting rings which everyone knows, but did anyone know that when you get hurt and lose all but 20 rings, those rings gained back also get put into the guage? Its slower than using TBG, but it could be just as cheap as long as you have rings.
here's also a list to what actions make your guage go up:
-sliding/rocket accelling
-combo attacks from power characters or firing your teammates at an enemy
-thundershooting
-killing enemies
-rings/ring balloons (your own even)
-rainbow trick rings (since they do give you rings)
-TB capsules
-flight panels (hitting the blue area near the bullseye grants you a TB...somewhat tricky to pull off consistantly)
I think thats it. also a note, all but 1 boss time from me used TBG and I do remember what it was. everything now has not used it.
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