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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2006, 05:11:11 pm »
So you figured SB1, more than that in fact... If you want to say SB2 strat even that way I won't be sad :)

Let's just wait a little more for sonichero, and about SY3 I didn't used the stars, just a little more lucky with enemies and rings.
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2006, 10:10:42 pm »
307 SB1? I'm very impressed - what ten rings do you think everyone missed?

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2006, 10:27:00 pm »
Good question!
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2006, 07:51:08 am »
I guess they're the 10 at the end of the topmost route (5+5)? I don't know what method you would've used to get the rest though, because according to what I do, if you can't get those, there are also some others you can't get. I used the trick seen in JXQ's speedrun of going through walls from the moving ledges, is that what you call a "screen wrap"?

I've got the rings in all the levels now - have equalled the top score for each one and beaten it twice (SB1 and SB2). SL1, SL3, SB1, SB2 and SB3 are the trickiest to work out what to do imo. SL3 was definitely the most hellish level, I was stuck on it for ages.

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2006, 06:32:47 pm »
I couldn't find a way to use the screen wrap to get those 10 rings.
Still trying...
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2006, 09:44:58 pm »
Sorry, I used the screen wrap elsewhere in the level and that sentence wasn't connected to the previous one. Wow, I wrote it really badly :S I was just wondering what you meant by screenwrap sorry.

Getting the 10 rings does not involve a screenwrap, whatever it is...

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2006, 02:18:50 am »
It is, indeed, using the duck-scroll method in the TAS. I think I used it twice.

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2006, 08:04:19 pm »
Finally I got it! I used the same way I entered to get out, but it's tricky. Get the maximum impulse on the moving platform, go all the way up and, at the end, jump. If you're lucky, you'll be launched off the tube.
And by the way, I hate SL3... I just can't get all the possible rings!
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2006, 08:59:34 pm »
Hey, if you'd kept that secret we could have had the record to ourselves for a bit :p

I don't understand how you were getting 297 before, because you need to use the same trick to get the rings in the tube at the start don't you? Or is there a way to get back to the top of that area?

Congrats on your SL1 score by the way - I tried to beat it but kept coming up short. Will try again though. As for the SB1 score, that must have taken ages and be really frustrating - I'm leaving score attacking that level until much later!

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2006, 10:31:15 pm »
I get every ring on the top parts then come back using the lower parts. After, I use screen wrap to go to the middle parts.
Well, after I discovered this trick I restarted the level and used the strat of my old score. It does'n have anything special, it's just annoying.
In SL1, this is the best score run I can think of (and do!).
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2006, 09:18:07 am »
From your description it sounds like I'm doing the same thing in SB1. But what I meant was, to get the rings in the first vertical pipe at the beginning of the level, don't you need to use the same trick you used to get out of the other pipe at the top right? i.e. going up it backwards?

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2006, 11:53:28 am »
No. In that first vertical pipe I just run backwards, it's sufficient to get the rings.
Some advice to help me with SL3? This one I'm trying for ages...
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2006, 12:10:54 pm »
I was thinking about sonichero, maybe he hasn't entered in the forum, and doesn't know about his score's discussion.
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2006, 06:12:14 pm »
He visits the forum occasionally
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2006, 06:48:18 pm »
PM him, last time I did so for Sonic Adventure DX shenanigans he responded fairly quickly.

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2006, 08:42:59 pm »
PM sent.
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2006, 05:32:20 pm »
maggot, for SL3, the trick is a bit like SB1, i.e. being able to do something that doesn't seem possible. In SB1 it's going backwards up a pipe that it doesn't look like you can, so look for similar stuff in SL3 and see if you can do it somehow. It's really annoying actually.

That might not seem like a helpful clue, but it is completely different to what you're looking for in SB2. On that level, it isn't at all about being able to do something that seems impossible. It's just a bit like a cool logic puzzle. Hope that helps a bit.

Can you give me a hint for Marble 2 please? I can't figure out how to consistently spawn that fly that goes from left to right and allows a big combo. Sometimes it appears and sometimes it doesn't.

Also, do you know how to get control of sonic at the end of the level in order to get the extra scores? I think it has something to do with jumping at a certain moment but I can't figure it out.

Also, what's the plan with getting the SY3 scores discounted - I'm coming to the end of score-attacking all the levels and want to know if I should try this one. maggot agreed that it shouldn't count so who should we talk to?

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2006, 06:17:34 pm »
^^Just make sure Sonic is off screen and airborne at the moment the signpost stops spinning
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2006, 08:00:38 am »
Thanks RPG

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2006, 12:58:57 pm »
ybbun
What I do in marble 2 is bring the bats inside an entrance near the blocks for a bigger combo with them. Hope it helps.
And thanks for the tips!
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2006, 08:28:42 pm »
Thanks for the tip. After some experimentation I've decided that I hate that level. Have achieved a token score of 71330 and am going to forget about it.

Question - is it possible to add/change a comment to a previously submitted time/score?

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2006, 08:43:59 pm »
I think you have to submit a lower stat, then re-submit your regular stat.

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2006, 10:39:07 pm »
It's a possible way to add or change.
Congratulation on your marble 1! It took me several tries to get that.
Still crazy with SL3....
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2006, 07:36:37 am »
I honestly dont know how I got that score in marble 2 but I tried to get that score again but I couldnt even get close, so think it was a typo or something so I deleted it.
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2006, 09:44:53 am »
Thanks for the info.
For marble 1 it also took me ages. It's so annoying to get everything perfect! I'd actually figured out that 30330 was the highest possible score (that I could see) a while before you got it.
A lot of your scores are really good: SY1, M3 etc. so congrats.

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2006, 11:13:09 am »
No problem Sonichero.
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2006, 08:36:45 pm »
 I'm very proud with my SY1! In marble 3, I'm still trying to use those bats in the final closed part of the level (there are six bats under the higher squared platforms and I can't hit any of them).
The score I don't wanna see anymore is GH3. This one really took me ages to do!
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2006, 07:50:02 am »
I'm a bit skeptical of my GH3, given that I was mistaken on two other scores and only spent about half an hour on each level one afternoon - I might have to replace it :S

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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2006, 10:55:45 am »
It's your decision. But keep in mind that your score is possible, it's just very hard to achieve. Give it some more tries and see if you can get near to it before taking this score out :)
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Re: doubt in sonic 1
« Reply #59 on: August 21, 2006, 01:02:09 pm »
What I did is get the speed boots, go to the highest part of the level and jump from there on the enemies to get a big impulse after hitting them. The speed boots give you enough mobility in the air to go to lots of enemies before fall. If you're lucky, you can get a really big combo (in a really good run I think you can get more than 50.000 points).
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