[magnum12]

Air Fleet: 216
Prison Island: 378
Iron Jungle: 264

[Bilan]

Metal City: 100
Night Chase: 100
Splash Canyon: 100
Red Canyon: 100
Egg Factory: 100
Ice Factory: 100
Green Cave: 100
White Cave: 100
Sand Ruins: 100
Dark Desert: 100
Babylon Garden: 100
Sky Road: 100
Digital Dimension: 100

I think we can safely say Riders Rings are too easy to max out.

[eggFL]

I thought ring attack was for ring missions only. Otherwise, that's absurd.

[Bilan]

oh I didnt read that bit >_>

[Shadow Jacky]

damn RPG.

um...yeah, I have trouble focusing on these tables than anything else.

HEROES:
Bonus Stage 1: Chaotix: 69800

[eggFL]

But that's weird because I'm pretty sure there isn't a ring mission for every course.

But thinking about it, for those that there are it might still be easy to get 100 rings. Ring missions might not be a good idea...

[magnum12]

Cryptix Castle: 451
Lava Shelter: 356
Space Gadget: 413

[Bilan]

I just played on Time Attack mode >_>

[Groudon]

Central City:  155
Death Ruins:  432
Mad Matrix:  377 (this level is a pain to RA, plus I ran into a couple enemies and firewalls, but this can go past 400)

[KnucklesSonic8]

Metal City: 100
Night Chase: 100
Splash Canyon: 100
Red Canyon: 100
Egg Factory: 100
Ice Factory: 100
Green Cave: 100
White Cave: 100
Sand Ruins: 100
Dark Desert: 100
Babylon Garden: 100
Sky Road: 100
Digital Dimension: 100

I think we can safely say Riders Rings are too easy to max out.

I must have not told you the rule. Item Boxes must be set to OFF. It's not eas easy as it sounds, especially green Cave - practically impossible to max out without boxes. This will make a gr8 competition!

I forgot to list all rules but I will soon. My apologies.

eggFL, "TAG" refers to Tag Mode.

[eggFL]

Oh ok, so Ring Attack rules are time attack with ring attack boxes set to off.

Tag mode TA?? oh snap. I might try that soon.

[KnucklesSonic8]

Sorry, eggFl, only FREE RACE is allowed. At least, that's what I think is fair - better competition.
I'm sorry I didn't clear this up at the start but here's all rules:

Rings:
-Must be done in Free Race.
-You are not allowed to use the Brake button at all.
-The following Gear cannot be used: The Crazy, Chaos Emerald, Gambler
-All CPU Players must fill the remaining slots.
-Settings should be left to their defaults except the following: Announce [Your Choice, On or Off], and Item [MUST be OFF].

Tag Mode:
-All CPU Players must fill the remaining slots.
-Settings should be left to their defaults [Total Laps: 3, Air Pit: On]
-Must come in 1st place for your sub to count.

Mission Mode:
-In all missions, remember you must complete it by reaching the goal for your sub to count.

Survival Battle:
-All CPU Players must fill the remaining slots.
-Settings should be left to their defaults [Time Limit: 15, Item: On]

Survival Race:
-All CPU Players must fill the remaining slots.
-Settings should be left to their defaults [Time Limit: 15, Points: 5, Item: On]

Sorry about that before. I'm making new charts to accomodate some of my records as well as the records for Missions. As it stands, only Missions involving Points/Tricks, Attacks, Time, or Air will be included. Should we not include Tricks/Points or Air?

Also, please bare with me, those with pending subs.

[Bilan]

Metal City: 100
Night Chase: 100
Splash Canyon: 100
Red Canyon: 100
Egg Factory: 100
Ice Factory: 100
Green Cave: 100
White Cave: 100
Sand Ruins: 100
Dark Desert: 100
Babylon Garden: 100
Sky Road: 100
Digital Dimension: 100

I think we can safely say Riders Rings are too easy to max out.

I must have not told you the rule. Item Boxes must be set to OFF. It's not eas easy as it sounds, especially green Cave - practically impossible to max out without boxes. This will make a gr8 competition!

I forgot to list all rules but I will soon. My apologies.

eggFL, "TAG" refers to Tag Mode.

I did it on Time Attack and didnt hit any item boxes along the way. If I were to do it again on Free race id do exactly what I did first time round. Wait for Rings to respawn and then pick them up again.

Theres no point in a Riders ring chart, and as you cant monitor if someone uses the break button or not, thats a worthless rule too.

PS I didnt know there was even a break button, I just skidded round in circles till I ran out of air and then ran around in circles.

[KnucklesSonic8]

Metal City: 100
Night Chase: 100
Splash Canyon: 100
Red Canyon: 100
Egg Factory: 100
Ice Factory: 100
Green Cave: 100
White Cave: 100
Sand Ruins: 100
Dark Desert: 100
Babylon Garden: 100
Sky Road: 100
Digital Dimension: 100

I think we can safely say Riders Rings are too easy to max out.

I must have not told you the rule. Item Boxes must be set to OFF. It's not eas easy as it sounds, especially green Cave - practically impossible to max out without boxes. This will make a gr8 competition!

I forgot to list all rules but I will soon. My apologies.

eggFL, "TAG" refers to Tag Mode.

I did it on Time Attack and didnt hit any item boxes along the way. If I were to do it again on Free race id do exactly what I did first time round. Wait for Rings to respawn and then pick them up again.

Theres no point in a Riders ring chart, and as you cant monitor if someone uses the break button or not, thats a worthless rule too.

PS I didnt know there was even a break button, I just skidded round in circles till I ran out of air and then ran around in circles.

Okay... well don't give up on me just yet. I'm sure there's something we can work out. What do you propose we do to make this a more solid competition? I still think there's quite some potential here. I noticed that thing about "running around" so maybe... we should put Air Lost=Retire, rule? That would solve some problems, eh?

Anyway, what do you think?

[Bilan]

You cant track whether or not people run out of air, thats like limiting people to only using one button other than the D-Pad for the MD Sonics.

Scrap Riders Rings, its too easy to exploit and max, and that wont make for much competition, frankly.

[KnucklesSonic8]

You cant track whether or not people run out of air, thats like limiting people to only using one button other than the D-Pad for the MD Sonics.

Scrap Riders Rings, its too easy to exploit and max, and that wont make for much competition, frankly.

Well, maybe your right. Thanks for the insight.

EDIT:
Hey, eggFL. I think you're right about the Trick Missions so I've decided to scrap that as well.
EDIT:
Air Tank-related missions also scrapped. Regarding Ring-related missions, should they go into a "Rings" Division? Should we still do it or is it too easy to get 100?

[Groudon]

Just so you have less to look through, I put my new Shadow rings stats here.

New

Central City:  155
The Doom:  356
Mad Matrix:  377
Death Ruins:  432
Air Fleet:  216
Cosmic Fall:  326
Final Haunt:  224

Improved

Cryptic Castle:  433

[KnucklesSonic8]

Just so you have less to look through, I put my new Shadow rings stats here.

New

Central City:  155
The Doom:  356
Mad Matrix:  377
Death Ruins:  432
Air Fleet:  216
Cosmic Fall:  326
Final Haunt:  224

Improved

Cryptic Castle:  433

Thanks.

Shadow Jacky, your Heroes score is updated.

EDIT:
Should I move the charts to this page, now? It's quite some pages back.

[Groudon]

Sounds like a good idea.

[eggFL]

Put all the charts on your first post. That way you can keep them all in one post without having to move them again.

[KnucklesSonic8]

Put all the charts on your first post. That way you can keep them all in one post without having to move them again.

That's a better idea. Thanks. I'll do that next time I'm online. This'll make it easier on everyone else, too.

[eggFL]

Gah, Survival Race is so ... argh! Tag mode was less annoying but it felt pointless nonetheless.  Both of these modes feel really cheesy. I think I see how Survival Race is done but it's really tricky. But in Tag mode it feels like it comes down to chance, I mean I can't even /race/ since I can only go as fast as my partner, can't even do much to win much less finish with a good time.

Survival Battle is also obnoxious because the hit detection is so stubborn and selective, but I can't say it doesn't qualify for a competition. *sigh* Btw, in the survival levels I am wondering: WHY does the clock make my time worse after the race is over?

Anyway this is not helping my dwindling interest in this game.

For whatever it's worth, my times:

Night Chase Tag
2:32:48

Survival Race
Metal City 13:24:00
Night Chase 13:15:99
Splash Canyon 13:56:39
Red Canyon 13:50:30
Egg Factory 13:45:67
Ice Factory 12:53:14

Survival Battle Dual Towers - 12:22:25

MISSIONS:
Metal City 3 - 0:49:96
Metal City 5 - 0:18:20
Splash Canyon 3 - 0:46:36
Egg Factory 3 - 0:53:80
Egg Factory 5 - 0:20:46
Green Cave 3 - 0:50:55
Sand Ruins 3 - 0:53:51
Sand Ruins 5 - 0:07:30
Babylon Garden 3 - 1:02:96
Digital Dimension 3 - 1:02:50
Digital Dimension 5 - 0:13:01
Sega Carnival 3 - 0:56:41

That's all I have to 'contribute' atm sorry. x_x I might give some suggestions but later.

[Groudon]

Glad you edited the 1st post.  Remember to add my Shadow ring scores.

And regarding "Robotnik's Hanger," I agree about all times for that must be 14"99 or under.

[Shadow Jacky]

damn, I did a bunch of bonus and emerald challenges in Heroes and forgot to record them while doing other improvements.  also bonus stage 4 is really hard to get over 300 links, at one point the tube will make you go up even when you dont want to.

[magnum12]

In regards to the extra Chaotix score attack suggestions, it was me who first commented on it in this thread. Be sure to update some of my new Shadow ring scores. (I have all stage 3's done, all stage 4's except Mad Mad Matrix, all stage 5's except The ARK, and all stage 6's except Black Comet and Final Haunt

[eggFL]

I think it's safe to say that the verdict on Christmas Nights, Labyrinth, and Bean Machine is no.

[Groudon]

New Shadow rings score

Digital Circuit:  417

[KnucklesSonic8]

Hey everyone. Sorry I haven't posted lately and I haven't worked on the charts lately, either, especially since my PC time is very limited these days.

Anyway, Groudon199, both yours and magnum12's scores are my priority at the moment. Once I fix this whole "first post" thing, I'll get to work on 'em.

Since the maximum characters allowed for a message is 20,000, I've had to cut some things out of the post, as you will see shortly once I update it. The Yellow Color indicating who's score is the best is removed, as is the "Support List" and the "Outstanding Issues".

Both will appear, now, in my second post on the topic and you will also see these shortly.

Today, I was thinking about the topic and something SJacky said in the past triggered something in my mind.

SJ, I'm willing to help you, if you like, propose Super Hard Mode scores for Heroes. After replaying it, I realize it would make for satisfactory competition, however, it must be noted that no character/team, time, or ring bonuses will count towards your final score since no Final Display is shown where the bonuses are awarded so you'll need to remember your score right before you cross the Goal Gate. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Rolken didn't go for this, or any other admin for that matter, because of this whole bonus disabling, but, we gotta try I guess.

On that same note, I thought of having Ring Divisions for SH Mode also. It wouldn't be hard to execute, and I have some Ring Subs. and Score Subs. for stages up until G Metropolis for now.

Well, I'll edit this post later if I need to but I ened to get to work, for now. But for now, feedback, anyone?

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EDIT:

Updated Chart Submissions

Groudon199 [STH Rings]:
-Digital Circuit
-Central
-Death
-Matrix
-Air
-Cosmic
-Doom
-Final Haunt
-Cryptic

magnum12[STH Rings]:
-Doom
-Circus
-Lost Impact
-Central City
-Cosmic Fall
-Cryptic Castle
-Lava Shelter
-Space Gadget
-Air Fleet
-Prison Island
-Iron Jungle

eggFL [Riders]:
-MC, 3
-MC, 5
-SC, 3
-Battle, Dual


-Fighters issue # 2 removed. Getting Time Over actually means You Lose so I guess getting 15"00/Time Over will not count since you don't actually "win" according to the game.
-Shuffle issue # 2 removed. Number Jump will not be added.

_________________________

EDIT:

Went back to S.Hard Mode in Heroes to get the following scores for support:

Rings:

Seaside - 352
Ocean - 226
Metropolis - 326
Plant - 305
Casino - N/A
BINGO -N/A
Rail - 99 [Kinda hard to maintain a good sub.]
Bullet - 102 [Got so fed up with this. Didn't bother taking my time after all the frustration.]
Frog - 161 [Not full potential]
Jungle - 226
Hang - 165
Mansion - 129
Fleet - 102
Fortress - 383

Scores:

Seaside - 52940
Ocean - 91380
Metropolis - 90000 [Exactly!]
Plant - 104830
Casino - 54490
BINGO - 47680
Rail - 30870
Bullet - 21800 [Again, got frustrated.]
Frog - 58850
Jungle - 51310
Hang - 62810
Mansion - 37780
Fleet - 113900 [If only I did this well in the normal stage!]
Fortress - 106970

EDIT: Updated some SS Scores for Heroes; finally implemented new divisions in Shuffle chart.

[Shadow Jacky]

but here's the problem if SHM gets put through.  For those that are serious about scores or rings, theres no way of going to a stage you want to dominate and have to go through the stages until you get to it.  Also the matter of lives being a pain in the ass  since everytime you start a SHM run, you start at 3 lives always. 

People would have to rack up lives for 1 stage and stay there until they are satisfied with what they have since you will never go into the goal ring unless you were done.  This and Expert mode from Shadow are unlikely to go through and be made official, but if they do, thats the kind of stuff that people would have to go through if they want it badly enough.

I want to pull myself from this idea as I just tossed it out, so I hope nothing else comes from this unless others want it too.  I do still want 2 categories for some of the Chaotix stage though.

And here are some more subs:

Sonic Heroes:

Rose:

Bonus 1:  71710
Emerald 1: 43260

Bonus 2: 57860
Emerald 2: 47610

Bonus 3: 46810
Emerald 3: 35390

Bonus 4: 60950
Emerald 4: 43210

Bonus 5: 43140
Emerald 5: 40130

Bonus 6: 45560
Emerald 6: 40830

Bonus 7: 50850

[KnucklesSonic8]

I want to pull myself from this idea as I just tossed it out, so I hope nothing else comes from this unless others want it too.  I do still want 2 categories for some of the Chaotix stage though.

Yes, what was that suggestion all about - Chaotix missions? Gimme more specs on what you wanted to be proposed and yeah, I kinda realized that myself about S.H.M when I was playing it.